Hide, Humphrey (d 1684) – Fairfield, CT

Humphrey Hide(s) (1610 – 1684) and His Ancestors by Myrtle Stevens Hyde, FASG [2020]

Part 1, Part 2, and Part 3

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  • Ann:

    Thank you for your reply. I am so very to hear about your family issues. I sincerely hope that things get sorted out very soon! I just want to say that I appreciate everything you have done and all the time you have invested in helping us learn more about Humphrey. If there is ever anything I can do to assist with this endeavor, please let me know.

    Beth Mansfield

  • Hi Again Ann

    re the link in your email-I descend from Henry Tomlinson and his wife Alice-my ancestor Anne Tomlinson m. Nathan Mansfield! I have never seen his wife’s maiden name listed as Hyde, everything I’ve seen lists it as unknown, but there is a Henry Tomlinson genealogy on ancestry.com and his parents are listed as George Tomlinson and Maria Hyde who married at St. Peter’s Church in Derby I believe in January, 1600 and Henry Tomlinson was baptized in November, 1606 at St. Peter’s Church. The genealogy says these records were lfound in the parish register of St. Werburgh’s Derby. Maybe this St. Werburgh’s was a repository for records from different churches. I hop this is helpful.

    Thanks,

    Beth Mansfield

    • Beth – There is an update. A well-credentialed genealogist, who is a delight to correspond with, has most likely located Humphrey and his family in England. I am still in the process of completing my work, which has turned into a longitudinal study of his associations in America. I can’t reveal more until after I’ve been able to confirm her work was published and find out how she wants to proceed. More when I can.

      • Ann:

        Thank you so much for sharing this update-it’s fabulous news! I can’t wait to hear more about that, as well as the research you have been doing. We truly appreciate all the time and effort you have put fourth on this project.

        Beth Mansfield

  • Hi Ann:

    I hope all is well with you and anyone who might read this. I was just wondering if you have heard anymore from the researcher who may have uncovered Humphrey Hyde’s origins in England? It is very exciting news. Take care and stay well.

    Beth Mansfield

    • Beth, she may have already published, will have to check with her and let you know. My schedule is all over the place but I’m trying to carve out some time for Humphrey this coming week. I’m down to two key incidents in his life. Two! It’s been quite a journey, I had no idea when I started that someone who is so obscure could be so interesting.

      • Hi Again Ann:

        Thank you for your update! I can’t wait to read your information and reading what this historian has discovered about his origins in England-it’s very exciting!

        Stay well,
        Beth Mansfield

  • Hi Ann:

    I hope things are will with you! Just wondering if there is any update on when you might be able to share the info on Humphrey Hyde’s English origins that you mentioned a genealogist may have uncovered? Thanks and be well!

  • Hi Ann:

    I hope things are will with you! I was just wondering if there was a update to your post of of February 18. 2020.

    Thanks
    Beth Mansfield

    • Beth, I’ve been corresponding with Myrtle Stevens Hyde, FASG. She is preparing a free, downloadable booklet of her research on Humphrey, including where he came from in England. I’m still completing my work on him, and I think once everything is done, the different approaches will compliment one another and provide a full picture of his life.

      • Hi Ann:

        Thank you very much for the update! That is very exciting news-I can’t wait to read her pamphlet. Hearing that the elusive Humphrey Hyde’s origin’s have been located gives me a lot of hope for the many brick walls I’m still trying to solve. I hope you and your family had a good holiday, and I wish you all a very Happy and Healthy New Year! Thank you for all the time and hard work you have done on this site-it is very much appreciated!

        Beth Mansfield

  • Hi Ann:

    I was just wondering if there is any info on when Myrtle Hyde Stevens will release her pamphlet on Humphrey Hyde? Thanks again for all you have done to increase our knowledge about Humphrey!

    Beth Mansfield

    • Beth, you’ve been so incredibly patient about Humphrey. I can check with Myrtle. I’m very close to having a chunk of uninterrupted time, which is what I really need to finish up. “Regular” genealogy I can do from anywhere on a phone or tablet. Humphrey takes a good 5-10 mins just to set up the notes on the screens in my office. Both kids are home, one just started college and driving, and the other is determined to graduate HS a year early. One overarching issue with my parents estate should be resolved by early next week. Then, fingers crossed, I can start again.

  • Hi Ann:

    Any recent word on the status of Myrtle Hyde Steven’s pamphlet on Humphrey-sorry to keep inquiring-just very anxious to see what she has uncovered and looking forward to reading your write-up on Humphrey! Thanks!

    Beth Mansfield

  • Hi Ann:

    Hope all is well with you-just wondering if any new update on Myrtle Hyde Stevens Humphrey Hyde pamphlet since I last contacted you on 8/19/21? Also looking forward to reading your write-up!

    Thanks
    Beth manmsfiel

    • Beth, thanks for your patience. Hopefully will be in touch with Myrtle Hyde soon, just getting ready to release a couple of teenagers into the wild (colleges) and it’s pretty crazy around here.

  • Hi Ann:

    Sorry to ask again, but just wondering if there is any info on release date for Myrtle Hyde’s pamphlet on Humphrey Hyde? I hope all is well with you and everyone on the site.

    Thanks,
    Beth Mansfield

  • Hi Ann:

    Thank you for your reply! I also look forward to reading your write-up on Humphrey when it’s released. As always, I appreciate all the research you are doing on Humphrey!

    Beth Mansfield

  • I hope everyone had a wonderful Thanksgiving! Ann, sorry to ask again, butI am writing hoping that there may be some word on when Myrtle Hyde Steven’s pamphlet will be released or information on how we can purchase a copy. Thank you so much for all you do!

    Beth Mansfield

  • HI:

    I am a descendant of Humphrey Hyde but am writing this time re trying to get some information on another ancestor of mine-Maria Hyde-she married George Tomlinson on 19 January 1600, in Derby, Derbyshire, England. They were the parents of Henry Tomlinson who emigrated to Milford, CT.

    Thanks,
    Beth Mansfield

  • HI Again

    Re Maria Hyde and George Tomlinson marriage, I neglected to mention name of church-St. Peters.

    Thanks,
    Beth Mansfield

    • Beth, thank you for your patience. Myrtle Hyde’s version of Humphrey is up, see https://www.hydegenealogy.com/?page_id=606 Apologies for it having taken so long. There are an astonishing number of ways to spell Humphrey and what she’s accomplished is quite remarkable. What’s interesting is that his friends, associates, and even the marriages of his children all suggest an origin in the East Midlands. As I may have said before, the DNA of Humphrey Hide and two other Puritans, brothers Samuel and Jonathan Hide of MA, are very close matches, and thanks to Big Y, we now have a good idea of how close. My work covers Humphrey after his arrival in CT, and I’ll put that up once I get caught up with queries. It’s been a busy time but things are at a point where I can resume. Regarding the Tomlinson marriage, there does not appear to be a connection between Humphrey and Mary. I’ve got the Bishop’s transcripts and can go over those to find out more about her family.

    • Beth – Mary Hydes and her family remain an open question. The St Peter’s parish register dates from 1558 and is easy to read in some places and next to impossible in others. There are unreadable areas in pages of interest that didn’t respond to my adjusting grayscale or contrast. Bishops transcripts date from much later, about 1662. I’ve tried to reconstruct Mary’s family, but she had a very common name and I’m not able to find a baptism or will or other record that would definitely link the Mary who married George Tomlinson to any Hyde/Hides family. She is said to have been born in 1579, which may be a guess based on the marriage date of 19 Jan 1600. Her place of birth and parents are unknown. Orcutt, in his book “Henry Tomlinson and his Descendants in America with a few additional branches of Tomlinsons…” suggests that the family was “landed gentry” https://archive.org/details/henrytomlisonhis00orcu/page/4/mode/2up?q=hyde In general, landed gentry tented to leave a bit better paper trail. It’s interesting that George and Mary’s son Henry was trained as a weaver, which may have been the family business. Henry is said to have married an Alice Hyde, a possible relative of Mary, although there’s zero evidence of Alice’s surname actually being Hyde. It’s also interesting that George Tomlinson was said to have come from Yorkshire, which is where we know some of Humphrey’s family lived. Myrtle Hyde, in her work on Humphrey, suggested that he might have been a tailor based on all the bolts of cloth in the inventory taken after his death. While we may never know for sure that this was the case, what we do know is that he and his family associated extensively with families of weavers who came from the areas around Derby and Nottingham. Donald Lines Jacobus wrote an article in the American Genealogist about the connections between families of Ilkeston, Derbyshire, “English Clues: Booth, Harvey, Beardsley, Stratford, Conn.” These families, along with Tomlinson, Wilcoxson, and Hassard/Hazard appear to have been part of Humphrey Hides “in-group”. My own work on Humphrey will examine these connections. I don’t know if any of this will help us solve the mystery of Mary Hydes, but I hope one day we’ll find out. There’s a newer book, The Tomlinson family of Derbyshire, England and Connecticut by Robert E Hull publ circa 2010 that might shed some light on the subject. There’s also a highly engaging blog on the Wilcoxson family by Jane Wilcox https://4getmenotancestry.com/the-grand-wilcockson-tour-to-derbyshire-day-1/

      • Ann:

        Thank you so much for following up re the identify of Maria Hyde Tomlinson. Thank you also for all the wonderful work you have done to assist us!

  • Hello! I just began researching my family genealogy and have come to find out that I am related to Humphrey Hide/Hyde on my Maternal Grandfather’s paternal side. I have also uncovered that Sir Knight Laurence Hyde, The Attorney General to Queen Ann II of Denmark, was one of my great-grandfathers on my maternal grandmother’s maternal side. I am trying to uncover if there was any kind of relation between the two. It is odd that it shows up in two different sides of my tree. I look forward to uncovering any Information I can about this mystery.

    Thanks,
    Kayle

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